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		<title>By: First Blogoversary! &#171; The Bottom of Heaven</title>
		<link>http://thebottomofheaven.com/2009/03/30/tbohs-top-10-villains-in-black-popular-culture/#comment-692</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[First Blogoversary! &#171; The Bottom of Heaven]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 23:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Claudia</title>
		<link>http://thebottomofheaven.com/2009/03/30/tbohs-top-10-villains-in-black-popular-culture/#comment-407</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Claudia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 12:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@neal2zod First things first: love your name! And yes, I would think that Peoples Hernandez counts, as does Candyman. I&#039;ve never seen the Candyman films - if they&#039;re really that good, maybe I need to put one on my netflix list!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@neal2zod First things first: love your name! And yes, I would think that Peoples Hernandez counts, as does Candyman. I&#8217;ve never seen the Candyman films &#8211; if they&#8217;re really that good, maybe I need to put one on my netflix list!</p>
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		<title>By: neal2zod</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 17:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does Jeffrey Wright (Peoples Hernandez) in &quot;Shaft&quot; count? And if not, my vote goes for Tony Todd (Candyman) - a villain just as complex as Dracula or The Phantom of the Opera.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does Jeffrey Wright (Peoples Hernandez) in &#8220;Shaft&#8221; count? And if not, my vote goes for Tony Todd (Candyman) &#8211; a villain just as complex as Dracula or The Phantom of the Opera.</p>
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		<title>By: Claudia</title>
		<link>http://thebottomofheaven.com/2009/03/30/tbohs-top-10-villains-in-black-popular-culture/#comment-402</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Claudia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 23:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Shadra, thanks for stopping by! Everybody go check out Shadra Strickland&#039;s work - she&#039;s an awesome children&#039;s book illustrator and recently won an award for her work on Bird with Zetta Elliot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Shadra, thanks for stopping by! Everybody go check out Shadra Strickland&#8217;s work &#8211; she&#8217;s an awesome children&#8217;s book illustrator and recently won an award for her work on Bird with Zetta Elliot.</p>
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		<title>By: shadra</title>
		<link>http://thebottomofheaven.com/2009/03/30/tbohs-top-10-villains-in-black-popular-culture/#comment-401</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shadra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Evilene! HA!!! I jokingly call my grandmother this when she&#039;s being old, crotchety, and down-right evil! Then we laugh a big laugh and she&#039;s not so evil anymore.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evilene! HA!!! I jokingly call my grandmother this when she&#8217;s being old, crotchety, and down-right evil! Then we laugh a big laugh and she&#8217;s not so evil anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Carleen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carleen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 04:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Um, not a villain? How&#039;s he not a villain? I thought he was responsible for kidnapping that boy for the &quot;fresh&quot; magic?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, not a villain? How&#8217;s he not a villain? I thought he was responsible for kidnapping that boy for the &#8220;fresh&#8221; magic?</p>
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		<title>By: yalonda</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yalonda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 07:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thank you :) it&#039;s they&#039;re both &quot;bad&quot; but not in the same ways. and skeletor just came to me lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you :) it&#8217;s they&#8217;re both &#8220;bad&#8221; but not in the same ways. and skeletor just came to me lol</p>
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		<title>By: Claudia</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Claudia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 00:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, and LOL @ Skeletor!!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and LOL @ Skeletor!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Claudia</title>
		<link>http://thebottomofheaven.com/2009/03/30/tbohs-top-10-villains-in-black-popular-culture/#comment-385</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Claudia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 00:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, Yalonda, you broke it down, girl. Your distinctions are spot-on. 

I think, Rich, that you make good points as well. There&#039;s definitely something about Elijah&#039;s villainy - with his brittle bones and repulsive approach to solving the world&#039;s problems - that is definitely more creatively rendered. Alonzo is a more &lt;i&gt;memorable&lt;/i&gt; character for me, probably for the very reasons you mentioned, and I won&#039;t let the fact that I&#039;m blissfully wedded in holy matrimony to Mr. Washington get in the way of recognizing a good villain when he rears his wild, misshapen Afro. 

Maybe in honor of the dual-characterizations, we&#039;ll call it at tie for #8 on the list?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Yalonda, you broke it down, girl. Your distinctions are spot-on. </p>
<p>I think, Rich, that you make good points as well. There&#8217;s definitely something about Elijah&#8217;s villainy &#8211; with his brittle bones and repulsive approach to solving the world&#8217;s problems &#8211; that is definitely more creatively rendered. Alonzo is a more <i>memorable</i> character for me, probably for the very reasons you mentioned, and I won&#8217;t let the fact that I&#8217;m blissfully wedded in holy matrimony to Mr. Washington get in the way of recognizing a good villain when he rears his wild, misshapen Afro. </p>
<p>Maybe in honor of the dual-characterizations, we&#8217;ll call it at tie for #8 on the list?</p>
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		<title>By: Yalonda</title>
		<link>http://thebottomofheaven.com/2009/03/30/tbohs-top-10-villains-in-black-popular-culture/#comment-384</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yalonda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 23:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I saw Unbreakable and dig it as well as Training Day. I think so of the issue is that  Elijah and Alonzo are two different kinds of villain. 

Elijah represents classic villainy as presented in superhero or other comics/fictions. He is extreme, maniacal, but also cold and calculating, but the idiosyncrasies of his life separate him from the kinds of dudes we encounter everyday. His hair is fly (!) and he is just as fantastic a villain as The Joker, Lex Luthor, or Skeletor or somebody. His wealth, his intense belief, the nature of his frailty are so extreme as to make him extraordinary in his badness. He scares us because he&#039;s outside of what we can fathom. 

Alonzo is an urban villain and while treacherous, is more &quot;realistic&quot; in his  badness as a character. Rather than the ego-maniacal super-villain, he&#039;s the ego-maniacal, hypermasculine, bad-cop/subversive Negro-type villain. He&#039;s someone just two steps beyond some cat we could know around the way-- he&#039;s just beyond &quot;regular,&quot; while still in the realm of possibility. He&#039;s a &quot;badman&quot; of epic black folk/urban experience proportions. Alonzo is scary because can imagine someone like him in our world. 

What&#039;s interesting to me is the element of cool that each man possesses though his personality is so different from the other.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw Unbreakable and dig it as well as Training Day. I think so of the issue is that  Elijah and Alonzo are two different kinds of villain. </p>
<p>Elijah represents classic villainy as presented in superhero or other comics/fictions. He is extreme, maniacal, but also cold and calculating, but the idiosyncrasies of his life separate him from the kinds of dudes we encounter everyday. His hair is fly (!) and he is just as fantastic a villain as The Joker, Lex Luthor, or Skeletor or somebody. His wealth, his intense belief, the nature of his frailty are so extreme as to make him extraordinary in his badness. He scares us because he&#8217;s outside of what we can fathom. </p>
<p>Alonzo is an urban villain and while treacherous, is more &#8220;realistic&#8221; in his  badness as a character. Rather than the ego-maniacal super-villain, he&#8217;s the ego-maniacal, hypermasculine, bad-cop/subversive Negro-type villain. He&#8217;s someone just two steps beyond some cat we could know around the way&#8211; he&#8217;s just beyond &#8220;regular,&#8221; while still in the realm of possibility. He&#8217;s a &#8220;badman&#8221; of epic black folk/urban experience proportions. Alonzo is scary because can imagine someone like him in our world. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s interesting to me is the element of cool that each man possesses though his personality is so different from the other.</p>
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